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I read an excellent story today ("The Recommendation" by Melanie Mitchell - http://www.geocities.com/ifirstcametochicago/recommnd.html ) that reminded me - because I'd completely forgotten! - that Inspector Thatcher has proposed taking Fraser with her to Toronto. What do you suppose would have happened had she gone to Toronto and put through an official request that he accompany her. (Could she do such a thing?) Do you think Fraser would have gone? What if he'd been ordered to accompany her - officially transferred? Do you think Fraser would have quit the RCMP, so he could move back north, rather than spend more years in a large city working for Inspector Thatcher? What would Fraser do if he did quit the RCMP? Do you think Ray K. would've accompanied Fraser to Toronto? I've been thinking about this off and on all day, though to be honest, I doubt I'll do anything with it. (Plot bunnies up for adoption - though I may someday come back to them myself. Not any time soon, though.)

Any recs for stories with any of the above scenarios?
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nos4a2no9
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Me again, this time with actual episode-related commentary vs. stupid questions about due South DVDs. I just finished watching the season two episode "White Men Can't Jump to Conclusions" and I thought I'd ask what some questions about the treatment of race on DS. The ep seems to offer a good starting point for the discussion, as it dealt specifically with the conflict between the Chicago PD, a young man from the ghetto, a vicious drug-dealer, and poor Fraser who's caught in the middle.

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I'm not really asking if you think either Fraser or Ray are racist. That question looses a sense of the subtle ways in which racism actually operates. It also forces you to consider the issue in an either-or way: to be "racist" someone must actively "hate" someone of another race. If that active hate isn't present than the person can't be racist, even if they do a lot of things in their daily life to encourage the oppression of minorities. "White Men Can't Jump" was fairly complex in its treatment of race (i.e. it offered a lot of insight into what drives young black men to crime in urban settings) but it still seemed unwilling to push the issue further and look at the way institutional power is used to oppress and intimidate minorities. Anyway, I've said enough, so I want to know what you guys think about this episode and what it had to say about black-white race relations in the US (and Canada). Sorry if I rambled too much.
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pigtailedgirl
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I've made a post for discussion about Fraser in my LJ. I've put the link up at ds_closet and I'd like to do so here.

Here's the link.
This is a link to my journal!
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crazyluke
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So after watching All the Queen's Horses and then Red, White or Blue I was interested what people think of the Fraser/Thatcher UST? Because I thought that it was all just the heat-of-the-moment in AtQH that let some feelings ('nuff said :P) through, but then at the end of RWoB Fraser does the whole semaphore "red suits you". So I was curious as to why people think that it never got any further, their own opinions on it etc?

And if anyone in the UK knows where I can get a mountie costume for a fancy dress party...
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pigtailedgirl
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I gotta post this before I lose my nerve. I'm a F/V friendship fan. Love Season 1 and 2.

When I saw season 3/4 I really disliked it. Still do. Don't like F/K as friends or otherwise. Don't get the relationship actually. I also felt the tone of the show and the character of Fraser changed for the worse.

But alot of people on LJ really do love it. So, I want to ask why because sometimes I boggle at it and sometimes I want to understand, if only to help me clarify why I don't like it or if I'm missing something.

Specificly, what appeals to you about season 3/4? Eps. and feelings and themes etc.

What makes you like Ray K and his story?

Do you find Fraser changed? What appeals about Fraser in season 3/4 to you?

Why F/K over others or just why in gen.?

What about everybody else character-wise?

And how does this go with your thoughts, if any, on Season 1,2? Did you find a
difference?

If you prefer season 1,2 or Thatcher or F/V or just dislike something on one of those questions, or want to do similar style with Season 1/2 or a dislike thing, well have at.

What's your Due South?

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jane2010
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New comer say hello!

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oliviatocali
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It's been a while so I'd thought I'd post.

WARNING to those who haven't seen "You Must Remember This" and "Victoria's Secret"! I'm gonna talk about the episodes!

Okay, so I don't know if this was plainly obvious or anything, but in the episode "You Must Remember This" Ray was willing to let the woman he was interested in (who he THOUGHT was a criminal) just go even though she had broken the law.

Now, contrast that with when Fraser sent Victoria to jail.

And in "You Must Remember This", Victoria is first spoken of by Fraser.

I thought it was kind of interesting.
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clandescent
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clandescent
dueSouth had so many excellent and witty lines that it's probably impossible to pick the best one. Having said that I'm just wondering what peoples favourite dS quotes are...

For me, Mackenzie Kings line "I've been to hell and back in a flannel nightgown and so help me God, I will never wear flannel again." from Diefenbaker's Day Off always puts a smile on my face, also Ray saying " I don't want to be a nobody Fraser...It's hard on my socks" from The Man Who Knew Too Little. (Forgive me if those quotes aren't exact, I'm too lazy to double check them.)

I also love the whole conversation between Ray V and the Cow-pattie Guy from They Eat Horses, that just cracks me up!

So what about you? What's your favourite dS quote?

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lucifercircle
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lucifercircle
Something I noticed when watching 'The Edge' is that while the FBI(?) agents are wrong to dismiss Fraser's thoughts on the attacker and certainly wrong to criticize him for not spotting him sooner when picking up the letter as no-one else would have spotted him at all they may have a point when it comes to not finding out any useful information.
You see while Fraser notices that the man worked outdoors a lot by the calluses on his hands, which is pretty impressive, he fails to spot/point out the other obvious factor which would have been useful in identifying the attacker. The man was black.
Is this because Fraser is so prejudice free he is blind to things like race and colour and does not think them worth mentioning? I noticed in the early Season 1 episode 'Diefenbaker's Day Off' that while he is able to give a detailed physical description of the man threatening Charlie and all the factors that point to him being a boxer (Including the gym shirt!) he neglects to mention that the man was Irish.
Of course it is likely the scripts were written way in advance of the parts being cast so writers would have had no idea of these characteristics but it is a bit surprising that no one thought to ad-lib them in.
Also I have been thinking back to that part of the episode and I can't remember if the hands we see are black or white. Was anyone else paying more attention? It would be a bit of a goof if they used a different actor for time/money reasons.

Also on the subject of 'The Edge,' does anyone else get the feeling that Fraser was very tempted to go with Macon Lacroix off into the forests?
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lucifercircle
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Gerrard and Muldoon!!!! Okay in the Pilot I got the impression that this was the first thing Gerrard had done wrong and he only accepted because he was threatened (You can take this sack of cash and turn a blind eye or we can shoot you - which would you pick?) and genuinely regretted not being able to convince Bob to do the same. However in season 2 'Bird In The Hand' it turns out he was corrupt for years. This is the same as with Muldoon. In fact out of the three close friends Bob is described as having over the course of the show two of them were criminals (Without him realising!!) and both of the ended up committing murder.
Maybe Benton has inherited this trait - it would certainly explain Victoria.
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